C-202 F.PC

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C-202 F.PC

C-202  F.PC For Machine Gunners.

-Experience evaluation-

 

 
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Evaluation by: Eliran Feildboy


Winter 2008, it´s the professions selection phase, just a few weeks after passing the final IDF SF selection & evaluation. We were all waiting to know what will be our purpose and what is going to break our backs.

While reading the list of basically 'who gets to be what' I realized, how far my dream of picking up the DMR really was. While all of the big, muscled, crazy and also sometimes dumb (which in my lexicon means fearless) people got the Negev (IWI 5.56 MG) & the FN MAG, I could spot my name hanging out in the bottom under the 'lucky ones' who gets to do the hell week with a MAG.

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I will never forget that 'smiley' sticker to the left of the word MAG, and how much propaganda was involved to convince us, how this piece of metal has a huge moral impact on the field. It was only later on, when I figured very well, what are the privileges of being an MG.Today I can tell you without blinking, after spending 3 months with that iron nightmare and an insane load out, why the experience & efficiency of being a machine gunner depends a lot on the equipment and its standards.While doing that hell week with a MAG, I realized how sucked the IDF standard rigs for those MG's were. 3 months later I wasn’t only realizing, I was already convinced that with this type and level of gear, I wouldn’t be more efficient than a ww2 machine gunner.

And here is why.

Team 10, before DA.

Team 10, before DA.

Every soldier knows, a MG is heavy, and so are the accessories. For those who doesn’t really know, for us the combat load-out as SF baby’s was 4 drums of 150 bullets plus 3 belts of 80 bullets each and one belt of 50 tracers (we are talking about nasty 7.62, don’t forget). And, of course, not everything was on the vest. Add the wonderful reserve barrel into all of this 'wet' gear the utility tools, cleaning tools, and so on.

See, I didn’t even described the standard gear that each soldier should carry, and the mission related items....yes even the green Hulk would start to feel uncomfortable. Therefore the problem was, that the rig we used wasn´t durable, comfortable and efficient. We were running in the basic training an old kind of a rig, which you could clearly see, that someone used it back in 73' when the American aid was first sent, to support the Israeli “Yom Kipur” war, which explained the 'Suez 73' writing on it. And the fact that everything (!) was at some part in history ripped and stitched back together in some kind of a sick patchwork made it even more uncomfortable and untrusted. The weight is a dangerous factor for both the vest and its user. Unlike other combat roles, a vest that wasn’t carefully planned and, like we often seen today, made out of Chinese crap will not last a 48 hours operation, and will surely not allow his carrier to stay in a healthy line.

 

The comfort is also a known issue.

In most Military’s the mindset 'embrace the suck' is the motto, which I absolutely support. But when you carry such a heavy equipment, and still expected by your environment to be fast and efficient the comfort plays a major role and often draws the attention of the user.

Carrying such a load out, with the wrong platform will result in unbelievable pain in the knees, lower back, shoulders and will make you go nuts after 6 hours. This kind of pain comes and goes in the first month, but after a few months it will become a part of your life, and an everlasting memory. That´s why a professionally designed gear is essential to your health and operational success, or lets put it one word – survival.



After understanding the problems, we can now start with the evaluation of the OSO C-202 F.PC For Machine Gunners.

First of all, this is a plate carrier, and was designed for the Israeli 'Karmon' ceramic plates. Due to a smart design which looks like two wings, you can enter a SAPI plate and the vest would still accept it and keep it in its proper place, as can be seen below :


The entrance for the plates, note the wide Velcro.

The entrance for the plates, note the wide Velcro.

The 'Right wing'.

The 'Right wing'.


Please note – avoid the insertion of plates under the 222 x 298 mm. It is also important to remark, that this vest can accept and work efficiently with the British Osprey Plates which can be seen below.


Osprey front plate

Osprey front plate

Osprey back plate

Osprey back plate


The first thing that pops into every machine gunner are the shoulders. Many shoulder problems are caused by the breakdown of soft tissues in the shoulder region. Using the shoulder too much can cause the soft tissue to break down faster as people get older, or speeding up the process by caring such a heavy weight without any support or material, to act as a soft layer. That’s why the C-202 has a 3d mesh padded shoulder strap that act as a 'pillow' between the vest itself and the shoulders. The well padded shoulder straps are covered by 3d mesh material that act as an outstanding air flow element. Never the less, unlike most PC's – the C-202 shoulders are rather thick and well padded as can be seen below -



The structure of the shoulder straps

Comfort

What I personally like in the design of this plate carrier, and other Israeli plate carrier designs, is the fact the buckles and any other adjustment parts do not have a direct contact with the user body. They also don´t get in the way of other equipments such as backpack straps, COM's, etc. and allow the shoulder straps to take a perfect shape around the users shoulder, and not some bulky default kind of a shape.That is often called the 'turtle' cage, which you can imagine why.

Modularity

Those PC's are designed to be quickly attached or disconnected from each other. This version of the C-202 has only a front plate and the back is made of a basically flat net. Might not be so common in today’s PC's, but we have a damn good answer which is a result of the way we do things in Israel.

In most, if not all of the operations I took part of, we used 'big' backpacks. Unlike our friends over seas we don’t use 10-25 Liters, backpack and call it a 24 hours assault pack. We often had to choose a suitable backpack from the range of 45 Liters all the way to the 100 Liters. With that being said, carrying a backpack adds two difficulty´s that each user has to deal with.

2009, Syria-Israel border.

2009, Syria-Israel border.

 

Balance & weight

Carrying a 'normal' backpack of lets say, 40% body weight, often sucks with a plate carrier. Why? Well, for me personally it often reminded me of the story of 'the princess and the pea'. In most PC's the plate will get in your way, and will make the experience of doing a tour in another country less enjoyable. This experience may vary due to the unending solutions we got today...but the problem is there. Machine gunners always carry a lot. Utility kits, cleaning kits, spare barrel & ammunition and the rest of the standard equipment...so they pretty much can not avoid the backpack.

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The Net

The propose of the net is, to counter and provide the user the ability to overcome the factors mentioned above. Needless to describe the obvious, a flat back can give you the best (yet exposed) solution for carrying an efficient, heavy and yet comfortable payload on your back. Keep the back piece, folded in your backpack if possible, would be a good idea. We actually, for some time, kept rocking our PC's without back plates due to some sick concept.

In my own opinion, the net should be used for the following environments:

- Vehicles

- Green side

Lower part of the net.

Lower part of the net.

As for the green side,I don´t want to be Cpt.Obvious, which any way i´ll end up like him but – almost everyone that I met outside of the IDF always bothered himself which Chest rig is the ultimate for the green side. Well my answer is, of course, what suits your mission and finally what suits you. However, with this PC we have a special opportunity. While having this net feature on the back, we maintaining some of the freedom of movement & carrying capability we would have with most chest rigs. In fact the idea might resemble a bit the concept of the P.L.C.E Webbing.

 

The benefits of the net -

Skin perspiration

Oh yes, this is actually a crucial factor. From experience in some shit holes, walking in the desert 40 km a night with a 52% body weight and a plate carrier can really suck after just 2 days. The skin of your back & waist starts to rub off because of the pressure & your sweat. Sweat contains mainly water. It also contains minerals, lactate, and urea...or lets be less nerdy and call it salts. Its makes your textile fabric become hard once it´s dry. Without having any ventilation, or a minimum air flow...wearing your plate carrier might feel like how Arthur Knights felt back in the day.

 

Comfort & efficiency

As I mentioned above, for the machine gunner, carrying a full plate carrier with a backpack is definitely possible, but rather uncomfortable and less efficient for some specific environments and types of tasks. Thanks to the net, and the outstanding design of the PC – it is now easy for the end user to combine a maximum of protection on the front, with extremely comfortable carrying of an additional heavy backpack. This design allows great freedom of move, and improves the reaction of the user.



Adjustment

Adjusting properly your equipment according to your body figure is highly important, and has a direct impact on your performance and the ability to last longer. The net has 4 adjustment points, two on each side. Those points are easily reachable, even when the vest is full.



Something that I personally like regarding those adjustment points is, that each adjustment webbing has a 'Webbing locker'. This is great, since in the IDF for example we always had to secure those webbing’s with duct tape, from flying around like piggy tales. With those 'Lockers' you wont need a duct tape. Just shorten the webbing as you want, and secure it with the elastic part. This is also great, because during a mission the load out or the amount of equipment changes, and so is the capacity. Instead of removing and adding a new duct tape...it  got a better and efficient solution. Easy, simple, and time saving.


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The Disadvantages of the net -

Protection

That’s clear to everyone – with this configuration, the PC has a lack of a back plate, and therefore the exposure on the back.

Color

The problem with the current net design we have might not be a big issue to 90% of our end users, but is an issue that definitely exists. The mesh color on the current PC's is Black.That can create three small issues, that should only interest the professionals among us :

 

Could you seen the pencott Green zone ?

Could you seen the pencott Green zone ?

  • Unnatural shape – the Cordura is acting as a 'frame' and the mesh net as the 'picture', so the human eyes receive a shape of a box, which clearly does not belongs to the typical green side or forest in your area.

 

  • Target acquisition – As mentioned above, the shape of the 'black box' will be detected easier by the human eye, and might even help your opponent to aim down faster his sights on your back. Therefore I would suggest simply to take a non reflective Spray, such as Krylon, and give it a small nice paint job.

 

Note the boots,

Note the boots,

  • NVG - The Box shape will be easily noticed by NVG's during the night from a distance of 10 to 20 meters maximum. That is simple due to the fact that if the vest has a bright color, and the shape of the net has a much darker color...it will be seen easily, by the way this is a reason why some of the IDF-SF units stopped since 2006 to work with black equipment in some environments.

 

The 'tactical' value behind the net -

Well without too much tactical bullshit lets get to the point.

The C202 FPC has a very simple and quick replacement capability of both the front and back pieces. That means, when we are for example moving in Green side as a part of a DA, which one of its goals is, to penetrate an urban environment, which requires the obvious use of two plates – the user of the C202 PFC will have the ability to quickly re-attach the back plate, while the Net piece was restored back in the backpack. In the next part, we will take a closer look into the capacity capability of the C-202 PFC, and certain highlights of the front plate.

We also would like to remind you that the C-202 PFC will be available on Gecko Gear from the 1st of June.

 

See you than !

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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The A.P.A.C.I.

'' The A.P.A.C.I. ''

So what is it all about ?

The A.P.A.C.I (yhe, imagine it as Apache) is basically a set of skills or, lets call it ability's, that the individual must have, in order to increase his success rate in the CQB environment.

See, the CQB is a violent & relentless environment, which is full with problems and only a few solutions. Often the CQB has a major mental effect, that can break everyones will, no matter how equipped or trained you are.

Embracing those principles and keeping them in the back of your head, will for sure improve your ability to solve and overcome problems.

A -Acceptance
P -Persistence
A -Awareness
C -Creativity
I -Initiative

A more detailed lesson regarding this concept can be found in our up coming Focus Entry course in Thüringen, Germany.


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PenCott 'Greenzone' apparel and gear in 2014 – Review Part 3

 

Welcome back to our blog and the third part of the PenCott Greenzone gear review series. In the previous parts we gave an introduction into the topic and an overview of the gear and apparel we are going to review in this series. Then we started off with the UF Pro “Boonie Hat” and the Leo Köhler “KSK-Smock”. In this article we are going to have a look at gear from Tactical Tailor. We will talk about advantages and disadvantages give some tips and share our experience from testing.

Tactical Tailor is one of the big players in the tactical nylon industry. The guys from Lakewood, Washington invented and patented the famous MALICE clip and developed great gear like the Modular Assault Vest (MAV). Almost every product of this traditional company was designed and is being produced in the US. A lot of their products are NSN listed, meaning they are officially approved by the Military forces of NATO and many other countries. This means: the guys at Tactical Tailor are 100% professional.

So I was really happy when Tactical Tailor announced that some of their gear will be available in PenCott Greenzone and Badlands. There is also the chance to get some stuff in snowdrift custom made. Most of this gear is part of Tactical Tailors the ”Fight Light” Series meaning made from 500D Cordura material instead of 1000D. This means almost the same durability and fire resistant as 1000D Cordura at a reduced weight.

Now let´s have a look at the stuff. We´ll start with the “Fight Light Platecarrier (FLPC)” by Tactical Tailor.

  • Price: 335,00 USD (other colors and sizes differ slightly in pricing)

  • Available SAPI Sizes: M (other colors also available from M-XL)

  • Weight: 1120g (Size M) / 1370g (Size M with both Side SAPI Pouches)

  • Other colors (multicam. Atac-s, RG etc.) are available

As we can guess from the name the FLPC is part of the “Fight Light” Series. At first glance the FLPC looks much like any other modern light plate carrier. It has got plate bags for front, side and back armor, modular webbing on the front and back (4 rows/6 slots) and the sides (2 rows/4 slots), a drag handle, loops for cables and hydration, etc. So why talk about it? We´ll have a closer look.

Very soon you will notice the high level of detail: all stitching are perfect. The webbing and even the velcro is printed in PenCott camouflage. Did I write velcro? Well in fact this is not just velcro but a material called “Quiet Loop!”. This innovation from Propel LLC is 50 percent less noisy than normal hook and loop material. It is used on the FLPCs front, back and even the sides of the cummerbund. Optional Side SAPI Carriers can be mounted over the cummerbund. They are fixed with velcro and will stay in position very well. The advantage is the easy modification of the level of protection according to the mission. You can go rather low profile or mount the side plates and have a higher level of protection.


Right when you put the FLPC on try to close the cummerbund, you will be surprised. There is no flap or velcro in the front. Instead the cummerbund can be opened at either side with a fastex buckle at the ten and two o´clock position. These fastex buckles are covered by a velcro flap that features two slots of molle in two rows. The cummerbund is attached to the vest at the backside with MALICE clips that are covered by a flap. The cummerbund has stretch inserts so it can adjust according to the kind of garment the operator is wearing. The pros of this system are easy use of fastex clips and no velcro damaging your combat shirt. The disadvantage is that the fastex-covers tend to tilt over when for example pistol magazine pouches or a radio pouch are attached. Notice the TACO-pouch mounted on the right of the FLPC in the picture standing in front of the Landrover.

Another nice detail of the FLPC is the integrated admin pouch on the top of the front with openings to both sides. But be careful! There is no velcro or button to close this pocket. So do not put anything in this pocket that is not secured with a strap or anything likewise. You will lose it!

The FLPC can be easily adjusted in height with velcro straps on the shoulders. They are covered by very comfortable shoulderpads. They have a mesh-padding just like the cummerbund has. The adjustment of the cummerbund works the same way. Open the covers and adjust it with the velcro. Having the side plate pockets installed though the adjustment of the cummerbund of course takes more time because you have to remove these guys first. A quick release cable is not featured. Instead you can quick release the FLPS with two big fastex buckles located where the shoulder straps are connected to the rear platebag. Here is another small criticism. Some people that wore the FLPC had problems with these buckles tending to push a little to their bladebone.

I did not have problems with this. So how does the FLPC fit? For this review I used my “Mehler Vario System” SK4 plates. The size is 310mm x 250mm x 15mm / 12,2" x 9,84" x 0,59". So they are bigger than a standard SAPI size M and honestly a little too big for the size M FLPC. Inserting them is not easy. The platebags are stretched to their limits. So I strongly recommend using plates the correct size. For me as a person of 172cm and 71 Kg the platecarrier in size M (based on the SAPI plate size!) must be trimmed down to the smallest adjustment possible. Anyone smaller or thinner than me will have problems because the FLPC will not be tight enough. Having found the right adjustment (and maybe adding some custom extra padding to the fastex buckles), it fits me nearly perfect. The two platebags have 5 very comfortable paddings made from molded foam that ensures a very good airflow and prevents the plates from bouncing when I run. I can wear the FLPC for hours and hours. This is really one of the best systems we have seen so far.

Still we have some suggestions for improvement in a next generation of the FLPC. Compared to other PCs we miss an integrated kangaroo pouch for magazines. Also we would like to see an easier option for adjustment of the cummerbund on the back and a solution for the tilting of the fastex covers mentioned above.

 

Of course without pouches attached the FLPC is only worth half the price. So next time we will have a look at what the guys from Lakewood have tailored for us. Also we will focus on 2nd line apparel. We´ll have a good look at the innovative UF Pro combat shirt and the Molay Gen2 combat pants, a clone of the famous Crye pants. So stay tuned, like and share. We are looking forward to your comments and suggestions. Also if you have any questions fell free to ask. See you next time.

 

Written by : Philipp Wolfertz

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Pencott 'Greenzone' apparel and gear in 2014 – Review Part II

By : Philipp Wolfertz.

Welcome back to our blog and the second part of the PenCott Greenzone gear review series. Last time we gave an introduction into the topic and an overview of the gear and apparel we are going to review in this series. In this article we are going to have a look at the UF Pro “Boonie-hat” and the Leo Köhler KSK-Smock/Einsatzkampfjacke.

Now let´s have a look at the stuff. We´ll start with the “Boonie hat” by UF Pro.

  • Price: 24,50 EUR

  • Sizes: S-2XL

  • Weight: 80g (Size L)

UF pro is a trademark of the company UNI&FORMA based in Slovenia. They specialize in high quality garment systems for professionals. Their UF Pro boonie hat features velcro areas for any kind of patches and IR-tabs on the top and at the sides. Unlike boonies from other manufacturers it does not have a long velcro for name tapes. There are loops all around for additional camouflage vegetation. Remarkable is the integrated inner pocket for small stuff. An adjustable chin cord made from paracord prevents the hat from getting lost.

Africa, 2014... Multicam VS Greenzone....

Africa, 2014... Multicam VS Greenzone....

The hat is lightweight and very comfortable to wear. Compared to other boonies the brim of the UF Pro boonie hat is rather small. I like this because it keeps the user´s silhouette small and the boonie gets less often stuck in bushes and trees. Also a headset like 3M´s Peltor comtac XP can be worn comfortably. On the other hand this design does not offer as much protection from sun or rain as one with a larger brim would do. In the end you have to decide if you prefer this design over larger brims. Also it is missing an Velcro for IR.

The boonie hat is very well made of 50/50 Nyco ripstop material. It can be machine-washed at 40°C. My head has a circumference of 58cm and Size L fits me perfect. All in all I can really recommend this boonie. You can purchase it directly at UF Pro´s webshop.



Next in line is the Leo Köhler KSK-Smock, also referred to as “Einsatzkampfjacke”.

  • Price: 179,00 EUR

  • Sizes: S-XXL

  • Weight: 1420g (Size S)

The Leo Köhler KSK-Smock has been a very successful product for several years now. It comes in a large variety of colors and camouflage patterns. Finally it is also available in PenCott Badlands and Greenzone. I think that most readers know this one quite well. So I try to keep it short here. The Smock is very well crafted and like all Leo Köhler products made in their own factory in Tunesia. It is made of 50/50 Nyco Ripstop material. It can be machine-washed at 60°C. Size S fits me (172cm, 71KG) perfect.

 

The smock can be closed and opened with a big two-way zipper. Additionally it features big slotted buttons and velcro. Like any real smock it has multiple pockets on the arms, chest, waist and lower back. All outer pockets are secured with big slotted buttons that are also usable when the operator is wearing gloves. Pockets can not only be found outside, they are also inside the smock. The two inner pockets on the left and right of chest are closed with a zip, the inner pocket at the butt is open at the top and divided into two compartments.

The waist can be adjusted with an integrated cord. The wrists can be adjusted with velcro. Speaking of Velcro of course you have two smaller Velcro patches on either side of the arms and one bigger in the left arm. There should be enough space for any kind of milspec-tactical-pork-eating-beard-owner-crusader-patches. You might notice in some pictures that I simply covered the Velcro areas with a rectangular patch from UF Pro because Velcro covers do not come with the smock. Also there is velcro for nametapes and ranks.

The hood is adjustable in size and big enough to wear a helmet under it. A wire integrated in the brim gives the opportunity to adjust the hoods shape and give more stability to it.

From my point of view one the most important features of this smock are the cordura padded elbows with integrated soft foam pads. They make proning very comfortable. Second great feature are the zippered armpits. The two-way zippers help the user to control the ventilation and adjust it to the ongoing situation. When your body gets hot, simply open the zippers and the airflow will cool you down. When it gets cold simply close the zips. I don´t want to miss this feature in any outer shell. Speaking of layers the KSK-Smock is not really waterproof but it surely is water repellant for a longer time. So i suggest you can use it as a third layer in 90% of all times except for heavy rain over a long time. But even this is possible when wearing a waterproof layer underneath. Since the smock is quite large, wearing a cold weather layer underneath is also no problem. For example I successfully combined it with a Helikon Tex “Patriot” heavy fleece jacket and even with a Carinthia “MIG 2.0” Jacket (Use the arm-pit-zippers!). Vice versa in summer you can just wear a thin shirt as a baselayer under the smock a still benefit from PenCott concealment.

One of the few missing features would be pockets in the sleeves of the forearms. Front chest pockets that are not only accessible from the top via slotted buttons and the inner sides with zippers but also from the outer sides would be the cherry on top. This would make the whole thing even more handy when wearing a plate carrier, vest or chest rig.

All in all the Leo Köhler KSK-Smock is a Smock as it should be and a very good bang for the buck. It is second to only very few and even more expensive smocks like for example the “Special Forces Smock Gen. II or Gen. III” from Sabre (Gen. III: 239,90 EUR). The pockets offer a lot of storage room for any kind of gear. They even can be used as a substitute for a chest-rig or day pack. For example I can pack my 10x42 Binoculars easily in one of the side pockets or put my rolled-in poncho in the large back pocket. With all these pockets a smock can be especially useful in LRRPs. But keep in mind not to overload yourself with too much gear stuffed into the pockets. Walking, laying down or even sitting can be limited! If you keep this in mind the KSK-Smock is very comfortable to wear and a highly recommended piece of gear for any season and almost any weather.

Next time we will focus on gear. We´ll have a good look at the tactical tailor Fight Light Platecarrier and several different pouches. So stay tuned, like and share. We are looking forward to your comments and suggestions. Also if you have any questions fell free to ask.

See You next time.

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